Decision making within the abdominal arortic aneurysm journey.

and to base anything else on really, which I think is probably like a lot of people. Yeah, well, especially from especially five, six years ago, it might be a little bit easier now, I don't think. Shared decision making appears to become a little bit higher up the list of late. Yeah. But, you know, I go back to a little thing I call bran, I don't know whether you've heard of bit when when when a when a doctor and a patient are discussing something if they use brand what are the benefits of what you want to do what are the risks what are the alternatives and what happens if you do nothing now i quite like that and i think you know it's very simple that if every doctor said right we've decided this is what we're going to do and these are the benefits these are the risks which obviously we know the benefits you'll get it repaired you know the risk you could die it could go slightly wrong whatever but what are the alternatives well if you don't have OSR you can have EVAR but that means you might have to come back and you know repair things and whatever and what if you do nothing well if you do nothing nothing might happen or it could rupture and you could be uh you know nine heartbeats from death so uh probably